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Remember When People Grew Marijuana For Quality Not Quantity?


cannabis gardenTwo days ago an older friend came and visited me for the first time in awhile. He had a nugget of some of the finest marijuana I have seen in the last five to ten years. He didn’t know what strain it was, but quite frankly, I didn’t care because it was so good. The smell, the look, the taste – it was all there. I told him how it’s been a long, long time since I’ve seen marijuana that good and asked him where he got it. He gave me a classic story about his friend ‘grew it, but he doesn’t sell it because it takes so long to harvest and yields so much.’ He went on to say ‘he only grows it so he has it for his best friends and for special occasions.’

It’s been years since I heard someone say those words. It seems like everyone and their grandma grows marijuana now, and almost all of them are growing for high yields. That’s not to say that those same growers don’t want the best quality too, but when it comes to motivation, quantity over quantity is the name of the game these days. Profit and greed have taken over. I’ve heard many, many growers boast about how much yield they got per plant, only to quickly follow it up with something like ‘it isn’t the best, but I got so much of it that it more than makes up for it.’

That’s fine from a profiteer standpoint, but as someone that doesn’t grow anymore, yet wants to ride the highest high, I wish more people would be like the first grower as opposed to the second grower. There is SO MUCH mediocre marijuana on the West Coast right now it’s insane. If I see someone’s ‘monster Blue Dream harvest’ one more time, and it’s not top shelf but there’s ‘a lot of it,’ I’m going to start naming names lol. OK, not really, but seriously people, where’s the growers that are growing for the best quality possible, period? I know you are out there. I have seen some Kosher Kush in Colorado that fit the bill, and there are a couple of growers I know here in Oregon that are coming with it.

What about in your area? Have you seen a decrease in quality but an increase in quantity in your area? Do you still know people that have been coming the same way for over a decade? Do you know of a safe access point that is packing the top shelf nugs? If so, feel free to give a shout out!


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  1. LOL, no. Amsterdam hasnt been a the meca for good weed in like 10 years. Times change dude, Cali and colorado are the world renowned places now. Not saying you cant get good weed there but now adays the best of the best genetics/strains etc come out of California, Colorado or Oregon

  2. You’re just on the wrong discussion thread, that’s all. Try the “Grower Tips” tab under Article Categories on the top right hand side of your screen.

  3. So exactly what do you have to do to grow better weed? Everyone on here is bragging about what great weed they grow but I don’t hear anyone saying what they do that makes it so much better. Nutrients, hydroponic, dirt, pruning, what?

  4. People out here in alberta canada are all about quality kush, or atleast something close too !!!!

  5. I still grow it for quality. Don’t know what is going to happen under the knew laws here in Canada. I am out after Mar 31, 2014 unless we win the injunction.

  6. I grow critical kush in Canada legally or at least for a few more months before they turn licenses growers into criminals. Ive reached the point of maximum potency, just beautiful. I also leave a little of the smallest leaves while I trim cause its so clean and so loaded with trichomes I feel its a waste to throw it all in oil or hash.

  7. When I move to Colorado, where would I find such a knowledgeable fella like you? You know, since I don’t want to grow my own medicine.

  8. The Reveg effort is ongoing; I could pull clones now but will probably wait till after January.

    The Blue Dream is an awesome experience for those using it for pain.

  9. “Do you still know people that have been coming the same way for over a decade?”
    I’m not sure what Mr. Green meant here, so I’m not sure how to respond… but I’ll try:
    Do most people come the same way, year after year, decade after decade?

  10. 3 Plants… Sage and Sour, ChemDawg, and Bluedream. Grown in soil, and in Colorado’s Sunshine (Two on the back deck), and one in the ground (The Blue Dream). I grow for “me” and I am critical of outcome. I did a B+ effort this year IMO. I find I grow better than what the local bud shops offer. Hire me. I live in Colorado Springs (sorta). Yeah… I want $15 an hour plus Commission if you want someone who can actually do it.

  11. Danielle Bullington on

    My husband and I have this conversation all the time. It should be the best of the best. If I owned a shop I wouldn’t want to sell something I didn’t want want to smoke myself. Growers need to take pride in their product. It’s a beautiful thing when done right.

  12. Shop around , its a joke in the uk £10.00 a gram … Friends prices , 1.4g for £20 off the road . It needs taxing and legalising sooner rather than later ..

  13. zippyhippyinOR on

    I have travelled alot and have been an avid smoker for over 40 years. After 7 years all over Cali (and 2 of those in Humboldt) I can honestly say I 100% agree. The weed everywhere but Santa Barbara county SUX! I am now in Oregon (and no longer grow), The mmj here is much cleaner and better grown. I dont see the signs of petroleum based ferts the way I did in cali, and the peeps in the biz seem much more down to earth. This was a very pleasant surprize. Congrats Oregon for reaffirming that profit and exceptional product CAN go hand in hand.

  14. Always, I put quality before quantity. It’s like drinking a fine wine, instead of boonesfarm.


  16. Live in Oregon also to be honest in my parts the quality is outrageous. Every nugget ive seen in this county has been top shelf. Still very good quality in the Northwest. NW has the BEST bud hands down.

  17. Chris Robinson , Oregon on

    The clubs in California have top shelf for same price. However, overall it is agreed that what is coming out of the pacific NW down into N. Ca is not so great anymore unless you deal with private persons, and grow it yourself. To many are greedy and trying to make a buck from a social drug as if it were meth!

  18. I’m 51yrs old and I agree that the quality has gotten better over the years, However! The SIZE OF A BAG OF WEED HAS GOTTEN SMALLER! When I started smoking back in the 60’s You could buy a $10 dollar bag that would weighed about 32 grams! Those were the DAZE! :-)

  19. Chris Robinson , Oregon on

    I have been saying this for the last few years myself. people leave the damn mirical grow alone, your buds should not be that pretty blue, and or taste like it. a lot of people are quitting the weed scene because of it. Thats their choice, but sure looks good for the ney sayers to legalizing, hell if the numbers grow large enough they may actually exploit that part of it all, oh wait the DEA and ONDCP already exploits things, why give them more? I would rather smoke some dirt weed then most of the mirical grow buds. I dont get the headaches or other side effects from it, nope I dont enjoy the high as much, but it is cleaner, and that is the sad part.

    I dont grow any more or less, but I dont get rid of what I have going for me either. enjoy your plants, and if they arent producing enough try different methods and known methods before experimenting with this and that chemical. good soil is all you need, and a little water and time. ITS a WEED, it will grow in just about anything, you dont have to go completely high tech. Stop making the rest of us pay for your HID lights and electric bill. It is greedy. grow another plant planted a little later, if you rotate crops, you could be harvesting all season, and never once pushed the threshhold of quality to the ground. I like home grown, it is good when done properly. afterall what other type of green in this country is there, sure arent any “legal grows in the country and no big companies with plantaions, so it has to be homegrown!

  20. Quality is SO up that the growers are now leaving a little more on the buds when they trim. Complaint was that one hit zoned a person out. Quality is great but it does lead to other “problems”. Har-har.

  21. Here in lake county you find a ton of commercial grade stuff and people putting out product that sounds like what your saying, but more than ever am I seeing “Real” growers who care are realizing with the quantity being produced it is so crustal to make sure the quality is there. I wish I could show you out of my garden what I’m saying cuz we did it right, low yield with grade a indoor quality. The trick is shade. Cheers from lake co

  22. i’d have to say that colorado has the best ive ever seen. i know 3 people that grow different flavors, one is a insanely potent grandady purp, one is an original thai strain that hese been growing/perfecting for around 25-30 years, and the other is a orange kush that is to die for. ive smoked pretty much every flavor you could throw out there but these three guys take the cake. yields are verry small compared to what most people are kicking out but the quality is superb. lucky for me their cycles are in almost perfect rotation so i always have some of the best :)

  23. 1972 I was geting weed that was black and sticky and 1 joint would get 20 people high as a kite, it was the original wacky weed. The strongest I’ve ever smoked

  24. When I lived in California years back, they had the BEST weed in Humbolt county. It would be very sad if that’s gone downhill. I knew some growers & at the time, they actually cared about quality. But it is true……greed is overtaking many markets & greed has never led to high quality unless EVERY consumer demanded it to the point of not buying unless it was good enough. Sadly, that’s not functional with weed. ….I miss weed……

  25. I actually think a bit differently (though I am in Australia), commercial grows are all about potency, everybody growing commercially chooses strains that are strong and that will produce heavy buds. I don’t see quality as strength or heavy buds, but rather the quality of the high, the aroma and taste of the smoke (don’t get me started on rushed curing)…

  26. Deborah Crowell on

    I remember those days, it’s been along time when I started smoking Herb. Back when you sampled, before you walked out the door. You could just smell it & tell if was worth walking out the door. The good old days when people were honest, cared if they had great Herb, to share with their friends. It got lost when amounts got smaller, & the price went up. Also depends where it comes from, raises the price not always a better Herb… Just to get some great seeds or clones is hard,not everyone likes the same as another person. Rolls are best burns, over the pipes… 1969, Wa. 1986, Kona.. Love the herb…

  27. nah. i grow boutique medical mj and it’s lovely and awesome and we get what we get and are happy because it’s so damn amazing.

  28. the same problem here. 1 solution that works for some folks i know and that is to find your favorite strain and grow that just for your own personal use plain and simple!

  29. That’s weird because I gotta tell ya I’m 41 years old and in my opinion even shwag pot now is better than the weed I smoked in my teens, twenties and half my 30’s. I don’t remember the last time I had to take a seed out. Weeds just plain gotten stronger in the last ten years or so and I think growers are more knowledgable than ever.

  30. Pretty much all of the medical stuff I get in Denver is top-quality (of course, I only buy top shelf). A friend visited from Humboldt County and told me that what I have is better than anything he’s had there in a long time. Plus, I pay $250/ounce max. I think Colorado is the place to be for great MJ right now!

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