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Voting No On Oregon Measure 91? Read This First


new approach oregon marijuana legalizationThere are members of the marijuana community that plan on voting no on Oregon Measure 91. I respect everyone’s views on the issue, and definitely want people to vote as they see fit because after all, that’s the point of a democracy. I saw an amazing analysis today on Facebook by valued Weed Blog contributor Russ Belville. His Facebook post was in response to an article urging people to vote no on Oregon Measure 91. It can be read below:

Your essay makes no logical sense.

Measure 91 was written by the marijuana activist community, with input from some 50-odd stakeholders. I assure you, no tobacco company was involved.

What oppresses the poor worse than the current criminal prohibition in which any amount under an ounce is a $650 ticket, any amount over an ounce is a crime with fines and jail time and any plant is a felony?

Please explain the series of steps that has to occur for someone growing four plants who is allowed eight ounces for them to be busted with more than that? Cops can’t get a warrant based on smell or sight of pot or paraphernalia or drug dog sniff or trash search, so how do they get into the house to weigh your stash and count your plants?

Maybe, just maybe, someone else narcs the poor person out to the cops. But that’s a danger you face now for just one plant and over one ounce and it’s far easier for the cops to get a warrant.

Also, if you *read* Measure 91, you’d know that 2x the legal amounts are decrim. So if you did have four plants and harvested 15.99 ounces, you’d only get a ticket. You can have up to 4x the legal amounts and still not get a felony.

That’s right, when Measure 91 passes, you could have fifteen plants and 31.99 ounces and it would still just be a misdemeanor. Unlike now, where 1.01 ounces is a misdemeanor and 4 ounces is a felony.

As for “black market trax markup?” Puh-lease! $35 ounce = $1.25 / gram. In Colorado, grams go for $10-$12. In Washington, it’s $15-$30. Here, the Legislative Review Office (not exactly a pro-pot outfit) estimates $140/ounce WITH TAX average. Last black market ouce I bought was $300.

Measure 91 also presents the most small-grower friendly legislation ever proposed. For $1,250, you can get a producer license and grow and sell to your hearts’ content. For $5,000, you could get all four licenses – producer, processor, wholesaler, retailer, and build your own weed empire, seed to sale.

Measure 91 does ban homemade extracts made with solvents, such as butane, hexane, alcohol, ethanol, and CO2. Good! Untrained unlicensed people shouldn’t be messing around with volatile chemical processes in residential areas. Vegetable glycerin is excluded because it is safe in residences. If you want solvent hash oil, get a processor license and make some or go to a pot shop and buy some.

I’m with you on equating marijuana and alcohol legally, but “wait for a better offer” means at least 26,000 law enforcement encounters for those mostly poor people you began your essay worrying about, poor people show can’t afford $650 tickets, bail bondsment, and lawyers. In 2012, we got offered unlimited possession and cultivation, like you want, and it failed miserably. This year, we getting eight ounces and four plants. If it fails, do you REALLY think 2016 is going to be a “better offer”?


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  1. It’s not the magic people make it out to be. A large fraction of its “medical” benefits happen to be available from non-psychotropic sources. It just so happens that people are super prone to conformational bias. This is about liberty, not saving the world. It won’t do anything of the sort. It is actually a fairly primitive construct and will be made entirely obsolete within the century.

  2. Many people don’t want to admit that they are incompetent and don’t belong even doing the work. Everyone apparently wants to be entitled to profits without competency.

  3. Private sales are granted to license holders who comply with quality and distribution regulations.

    It does not repeal felonies. So what? I have a felony for delivery of >1oz, this law is a ray of sunshine for me. I will still be able to be a grower because I am not an actual criminal. No one is required to not hire felons, and in fact, it is illegal to refuse to hire someone just because they are a felon (if the felony doesn’t actually bear on the work).

  4. What do you mean a few? My experience is 95% not in compliance with the actual letter of the law (OMMP).

  5. You don’t understand what legalization is. What you want is decriminalization. Decriminalization results in no laws controlling the object in question.

  6. Does it allow Private Sales?

    Does it Repeal ALL Marijuana FELONIES?

    Does it Repeal ALL Marijuana MISDEMEANORS?

    Or it is another FAKE “legalization” — commercialization — that maintains CRIMINAL PROHIBITIONS?

  7. This measure doesn’t LEGALIZE pot, it COMMERCIALIZES it surrendering total control to the Greedy Big $$ Dispensary Cartels and the Government jackboots, while MAINTAINING CRIMINAL Prohibitions for everyone else.

  8. I don’t hate anyone. I just happen to know a few that don’t want pot legalized because it will hurt their bottom line.

  9. There will be home grows allowed. YES. There will still be tax free
    dispensaries. YES. This will not affect the OMMP program. The only people
    this will hurt is the growers and dealers that are profiting illegally
    from the shelter of the OMMP program.I’m voting yes. Not because I
    think the OMMP program is a joke – it’s not. I am a card holder myself.
    I am voting yes because it is a waste of my time and money to prove
    every year that I have chronic pain and that marijuana helps
    significantly. I also happen to enjoy it and I don’t see why every other
    adult shouldn’t be allowed to partake if they so choose. VOTE YES

  10. I just want to understand and be clear on the issue at hand. We the people will still not be able to just grow and have, it will go through the powers that be, and they will decide, and they will control the seeds?

  11. Gentlemanfarmer on

    thank you for your reply. I don’t mean to get all riled up in the comments of an article but the fact of the matter is many people build their opinion on certain topics from the comments on these blog posts. and we need to make sure that we are spreading opinions rooted in fact. I commend you for taking the time to repost. And wish Arizona the best of luck in 2016.

    Grow for all the right reasons, Peace. Gf

  12. I did not realize that the pressures were that high and now I understand what your point is and is is a good one. There is no sense in anyone getting hurt. I’m in AR and we don’t get to vote on medical MJ until 2016 because they think that there will be a much greater number of people at the polls than there will be in 2014. The wording on our medical push is fairly liberal on the different types of cannabis and I can’t wait. I would like to try a dab but it probably will not happen here.

  13. Gentlemanfarmer on

    supercritical co2 extraction, which is what they’re referring to requires pressures in excess of 1000 psi. At those pressures if you have a Jimmy rigged set up and the pressure is releasedthe resulting explosion is as damaging if not worse to person and property than a volatile explosion from solvents. I am a producer of extracts and a firm supporter that all equipment and processes should be regulated to some extent. That is what so many people who want to pick holes in measure 91 don’t understand we the people if we choose to be will be those who influence the decisions on regulations. That is how this law will come together that is how this law will either be fair or unfair is the involvement and compromise of both sides to give us the freedom to safely produce and consume cannabis and to give those who do not wish for it to be part of their lives the right to have it in the background. This law was written for both sides of the fence as any reasonable law regarding marijuana should be. I want to indulge in my recreational vice, I want those who do not agree with marijuana to give me that right. So we must give the right for those who disagree with marijuana not to be inundated with it all around that’s what regulations are. Safety in the production is just one of many areas that we must respect the rights of those who do not want marijuana in their face. back to direct response of your commentif there were no regulation on home production of supercritical co2 hash extract it is inevitable that poorly constructed containment vessels for the supercritical co2 will rupture releasing in excess of 1000 psi that is the same as large bomb resulting in a catastrophic explosion shredding a person into confetti. While most supercritical co2 devices are made to standards to ensure safe opertion. safety regulations and inspections are necessary to make sure that somebody is not playing with a bomb. Do some research before you make a silly comment about co2

  14. Kevin Sabet must be crazy happy he found a way to get the cannabis community to disagree on the merits of Measure 91.
    It’s called “divide and conquer”. Split the opposition into war:ring factions and they lose all their power. It’s time we set aside our differences and pass this measure…

  15. It saddens and disgusts me to tears that some “activists” are willing to side with the police, the prison lobby, and Kevin Sabet’s rehab cult crowd in order to subject Oregonians to the tyrannical crime against humanity of cannabis prohibition. Sickening. Please vote “yes” on 91 and say “no” to the stoner against legalization crowd. Thank you very much.

  16. stellarvoyager on

    I cannot wait to vote for this measure. I believe that however this measure goes, so goes the nation. If measure 91 passes, it will send a message that a strong legalization measure can pass in an off year, and it will set the stage for CA, NV, AZ, ME and possibly a few others to legalize in 2016. On the other hand, if the measure is defeated, it will embolden the prohibitionists, and we may never see a measure this reasonable again. Given that measure 2 in FL seems to be hemorrhaging support, and AK is anyone’s guess, and DC could be overruled by congress, passing measure 91 is essential to keeping up the momentum.

    This is a really great bill. It is not perfect, but once the foundation has been laid by passing it, we can then build on that achievement. That won’t happen if the measure does not pass. I am optimistic that it will pass. The recent polling and endorsements are encouraging, but it is not a done deal yet. If you live in Oregon, vote for measure 91 and get your friends to as well! If not, consider donating to the campaign! We can make history this election right here in Oregon, and I look forward to helping to make that possible.

  17. Anslinger's Goon on

    I’m active on the local blogs on threads involving Measure 91. I feel like I’m fighting prohibitionists on one side and pie in the sky marijuana myopics on the other. I think M 91 passes, but I never expected to have to slug it out with other activists.

  18. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Each step toward legalization, no matter how small and flawed, helps to establish a vital toehold leading to making cannabis more accessible to those who need it. Medical marijuana is limited to a very narrow qualifying criteria of illnesses and conditions. There are hundreds of other health conditions, both preventive and curative, that are not allowed; depriving many others from having access to legal cannabis for its health benefits.

    Yes, cannabis should not be classified as a drug but instead as what it actually is: a highly beneficial plant that should be as available as any other herbal supplement. It is a vital and necessary supplement for a healthy endocannabinoid system, which in turn is critical for maintaining the overall health of all the body’s systems.

    Cannabis is coming out of the the shadows of prohibition into its rightful place in the sun as the “herb of herbs;” to offer healing and restoration to a sick and damaged world.

  19. jeezus folks vote yes ! The rest of the country needs you to push the envelope further. Further refinements can be done as people run into problems.
    You guys have a GREAT initiative in my opinion, and I think Russ lays this out clearly in his article.

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